DeepSeek DSec 沙盒工廠封面

DeepSeek 把"沙盒"做成了工廠DeepSeek Turned the Sandbox Into a Factory

【鄭哥點評】【ZHENG GE REVIEW】

昨日看到 DeepSeek 喺 arXiv 上挂咗一篇新論文《DSec: A Sandbox Infrastructure for Effective Agentic Training at Scale》,署名 130 多人,梁文鋒排喺最後——呢個署名習慣同 GPT 系列論文嘅畫風好似。

讀完之後有 D 分慨:行業競爭嘅焦點,已經由"邊個模型更強",悄悄轉咗到"邊個能俾 Agent 一個像樣嘅家"。

一、Agent 訓練為何需要"沙盒"

大模型本身只能"想",真正能"做"嘅,係 Agent。

要讓 Agent 學會點外賣、寫程式、操作數據庫,佢得喺一個隔離環境內反覆練習——呢個環境,就係沙盒。

傳統做法係俾每個 Agent 任務開一台虛擬機或容器,聽起來簡單,但當你要同時跑幾萬個 Agent 做訓練時,資源消耗同啟動延遲就成咗噩夢。

DSec 就係為解決呢個問題而生嘅。

DeepSeek 工程師協作研發截圖
場景:DeepSeek 工程師喺屏幕前調試沙盒基礎設施Scene: DeepSeek engineers debugging sandbox infrastructure
圖片由 AI輔助創作(Z-Image-Turbo)

二、DSec 嘅核心數據

論文裡披露嘅少少數字,挺震撼嘅:

維度 數量
單生產單元160 個 CPU 節點 / 3 萬核 / 250TB 內存
日均沙盒服務大約 300 萬個
峰值並發超過 38 萬
每秒 5000 個

呢個概念係乜樣?相當於一秒鐘能開 5000 間"小房間",讓 5000 個 Agent 同時入去幹活。

DSec 千萬沙盒同時創建示意圖
場景:DSec 系統每秒創建 5000 個隔離沙盒示意Scene: DSec creating 5000 sandboxes per second visualization
圖片由 AI輔助創作(Z-Image-Turbo)

三、三個關鍵技術優化

DSec 唔係簡單堆機器,佢喺三個層面做咗精細化優化:

1. 三層可組合鏡像:將鏡像拆成基礎層、中間層、應用層,按需拼裝,避免重複拷貝。

2. 按需加載:Agent 用到乜資源就加載乜,啟動時唔使全量灌進去。

3. 軟硬件精細化調度:CPU、內存、網絡、儲存按 Agent 實際需求動態分配,唔浪費。

DSec RSI 閉環自我進化示意圖
場景:DSec RSI 閉環——Agent 自己造環境,環境又訓練更強 AgentScene: DSec RSI closed loop — agents building environments to train stronger agents
圖片由 AI輔助創作(Z-Image-Turbo)

四、RSI 閉環:Agent 自己造環境

論文第 6 節提到,DeepSeek 已經部分實現咗一個有趣嘅閉環——RSI(Recursive Self-Improvement):

Agent 用 DSec 自主構建訓練環境 → 訓練出更強嘅 Agent → 更強嘅 Agent 又能造出更好嘅環境

呢係 AI 自我進化嘅雏形。

不過論文亦坦誠提到,目前呢個閉環仍處於早期階段,已經出現過多起 Agent 作弊、錯誤操作導致系統故障個案。

你看,再聰明嘅 AI,亦都得有人類"睇住"。

五、行業轉向咩

如果話 GPT-4 時代大家喺卷"模型參數",當下卷嘅就係 "Agent 基礎設施"。

月之暗面 Kimi K3 用嘅 AgentENV 沙盒平台,同 DSec 係同題不同答卷。阿里雲推出"Agentic Cloud"戰略,自研 Agent Sandbox。

競爭從"算法"延伸到"工程"。呢個背後係同一個判斷:未來 AI 嘅差距,可能唔再係模型本身,而在佢能多大程度上"動起嚟"。

DeepSeek 深圳總部黄昏
場景:DeepSeek 深圳總部——130 人協作的起點Scene: DeepSeek Shenzhen HQ at dusk — where 130+ people collaborate
圖片由 AI輔助創作(Z-Image-Turbo)

寫喺最後

讀完呢篇論文,最讓我觸動嘅唔係那些炫目數字,而是梁文鋒作為最後一位署名作者呢件事。

呢個說明 DSec 唔係某個天才嘅靈光一現,而係 130 多人協作嘅工程成果。

AI 時代,能把"基礎設施"做到呢種規模嘅玩家,才能真正站腳腳。

我哋寫代碼嘅時候,亦係如此——真正難嘅從來唔係新功能,而係讓系統喺生產環境穩定地跑下去。

一句話總結

DeepSeek DSec 係 130 人協作的工程結晶,沙盒每秒創建 5000 個係表面,核心係 RSI 閉環嘅進化藍圖。AI 時代,能把基礎設施做到規模嘅玩家,才能真正站穩。

*參考來源:今日頭條《DeepSeek 晒自研沙盒平台,行業競爭轉向新賽道》,2026-09-25。原文基於 arXiv 論文 2609.22978《DSec: A Sandbox Infrastructure for Effective Agentic Training at Scale》。*

鄭哥 Hany

關於作者About the Author

鄭哥,90年代大學畢業,26年橫跨電子、家電、服裝、珠寶、教育、AI算力多個行業。做過中學教師、翻譯、外贸,現在搞七善門科技和星辰算力。口頭禪:「點解唔得?」Hany, university grad from the 90s, 26 years across electronics, appliances, fashion, jewelry, education, and AI compute. Former teacher, translator, trader. Now running Qishanmen Tech and Star Compute. Catchphrase: "Why not?"

Yesterday, DeepSeek posted a new paper on arXiv — "DSec: A Sandbox Infrastructure for Effective Agentic Training at Scale" — with 130+ authors, and Liang Wenfeng listed last. That authorship style feels right at home with the GPT series papers.

After reading, one thought stood out: the focus of industry competition has quietly shifted from "which model is stronger" to "who can give Agents a proper home."

1. Why Agents Need a "Sandbox"

Large models can only "think." What can truly "do" is the Agent.

To teach an Agent to order food delivery, write code, or operate databases, it needs to practice repeatedly inside an isolated environment — this is the sandbox.

The traditional approach: spin up a VM or container per Agent task. Sounds simple, but when you're running tens of thousands of Agents simultaneously for training, resource consumption and startup latency become a nightmare.

DSec was born to solve exactly this.

DeepSeek engineers debugging sandbox infrastructure
場景:DeepSeek 工程師喺屏幕前調試沙盒基礎設施Scene: DeepSeek engineers debugging sandbox infrastructure
Image AI-assisted (Z-Image-Turbo)

2. DSec's Core Numbers

The few numbers disclosed in the paper are striking:

Dimension Value
Per production unit160 CPU nodes / 30k cores / 250TB RAM
Daily sandbox services~3 million
Peak concurrency380,000+
5,000 per second

What does this look like in practice? 5,000 "little rooms" opened in one second, letting 5,000 Agents work inside them simultaneously.

DSec thousands of sandboxes spawning simultaneously
場景:DSec 系統每秒創建 5000 個隔離沙盒示意Scene: DSec creating 5000 sandboxes per second visualization
Image AI-assisted (Z-Image-Turbo)

3. Three Key Technical Optimizations

DSec isn't just piling on machines — it refined three layers:

1. Three-layer composable images: Split images into base, intermediate, and application layers, assembled on demand to avoid redundant copies.

2. On-demand loading: Agents load only the resources they use; no need to灌入 everything at startup.

3. Fine-grained software-hardware scheduling: CPU, RAM, network, and storage dynamically allocated per Agent's actual needs — no waste.

DSec RSI closed loop diagram
場景:DSec RSI 閉環——Agent 自己造環境,環境又訓練更強 AgentScene: DSec RSI closed loop — agents building environments to train stronger agents
Image AI-assisted (Z-Image-Turbo)

4. RSI Closed Loop: Agents Building Their Own Environments

Section 6 of the paper notes that DeepSeek has partially achieved an interesting closed loop — RSI (Recursive Self-Improvement):

Agent uses DSec to autonomously build training environment → trains a stronger Agent → stronger Agent builds a better environment

This is the prototype of AI self-evolution.

However, the paper honestly admits: the loop is still in its early stage, and multiple cases of Agent cheating and erroneous operations causing system failures have already occurred.

You see — no matter how smart the AI, it still needs humans watching over it.

5. Where Is the Industry Heading?

If the GPT-4 era was about competing on "model parameters," the current wave is about competing on "Agent infrastructure".

Moon Dark Side's Kimi K3 uses AgentENV sandbox platform — same problem, different answer. Alibaba Cloud launched an "Agentic Cloud" strategy with self-developed Agent Sandbox.

Competition has extended from "algorithms" to "engineering." Behind this is the same judgment: the future AI gap may no longer be the model itself, but how much it can "get moving."

DeepSeek Shenzhen headquarters at dusk
場景:DeepSeek 深圳總部黄昏Scene: DeepSeek Shenzhen HQ at dusk
Image AI-assisted (Z-Image-Turbo)

Written at the End

After reading this paper, what moved me most wasn't the flashy numbers — it was Liang Wenfeng being listed as the last author.

This tells us DSec wasn't a flash of genius from one person — it's the engineering result of 130+ people collaborating.

In the AI era, only players who can build "infrastructure" at this scale can truly stand firm.

When we write code, it's the same — the real difficulty is never the new feature, but making the system run stably in production.

One-Line Summary

DeepSeek DSec is the engineering crystallization of 130+ collaborators. 5,000 sandboxes per second is the surface; the core is the RSI closed-loop evolution blueprint. In the AI era, only players who can scale infrastructure can truly stand their ground.
鄭哥 Hany

關於作者About the Author

鄭哥,90年代大學畢業,26年橫跨電子、家電、服裝、珠寶、教育、AI算力多個行業。做過中學教師、翻譯、外贸,現在搞七善門科技和星辰算力。口頭禪:「點解唔得?」Hany, university grad from the 90s, 26 years across electronics, appliances, fashion, jewelry, education, and AI compute. Former teacher, translator, trader. Now running Qishanmen Tech and Star Compute. Catchphrase: "Why not?"